How the Pacers ruined a championship contender with tiny moves and one big injury

06 Th12, 2020
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This is a different kind of Collapse. The Pacers didn't fall from best record in the NBA to the league's basement. They did fall, though, and while their decline wasn't so deep, it was particularly weird.
A lot of people remember Paul George's broken leg, and that played a big part in a great team's demise. The Pacers, though, showed signs of fracturing long before George's injury. (That was an unintentional pun, but we're just gonna leave it.) Seemingly minor moves by team president Larry Bird -- a little trade here, a little signing there -- rattled the team's stars, and perhaps contributed to measurable drops in production.
Bad vibes led to public grouchiness, which led to some surprising departures, which led a team that was already teetering before George's broken leg to capsize for real.
The Pacers' fall from elite to ordinary looks simple from afar, but it includes some strange details you might not remember.
Directed by Ryan Simmons
Motion graphics by Michael Das
Written and produced by Seth Rosenthal
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  • I almost hated the Pacers because they almost defeated the Heat in 2013 and 2014. I was a Bron fan back then. 🤣

    David PauloDavid Paulo12 giờ trước
  • Even harder watching this knowing the pacers ownership wouldnt pull the trigger to get anthony davis and gave a bullshit excuse saying they have a responisblity to indianapolis to be playoff contenders so they couldnt risk it.

    Tommy CurranTommy Curran2 ngày trước
  • Larry Bird was trash at everything except playing. He blames everyone, but himself.

    Michael ThomasMichael Thomas6 ngày trước
  • Sums up the state of Indiana. Always waddling in mediocrity. Why I left.

    ZenusZenus8 ngày trước
  • "Attractive atheletes" Seth a little fugazi

    Pete ArdPete Ard8 ngày trước
  • It will take a few years but with Sabonis Indiana could run the table

    Preston WintPreston Wint8 ngày trước
  • Wow. Thanks for picking that scab.. Now it's infected. Hahaha come on Hoosiers. Let's do this! & for God sakes somebody find out wtf the origin of the word& why we decided to go with that.. Please

    Casey Ray Harris. EsquireCasey Ray Harris. Esquire9 ngày trước
  • I wasn't going to watch the other one but I was linked here from Kobe's Lakers ruining video because I am from Indiana and then the 4th grade I went on a class field trip. For school. To watch an IMAX documentary about the Rivalry between the Bulls Michael Jordan, who I am a huge fan of now. I walked out of that documentary, being from Indiana, hating. Hating the Chicago Bulls, I knew we were going to win a championship. I haven't even watch this video and I am f****** pissed! I never knew the f****** story I just thought the better man won, nope capitalism ruins it again.

    Casey Ray Harris. EsquireCasey Ray Harris. Esquire9 ngày trước
    • To be fair all NBA fans deserve a championship because they paid for the League

      Casey Ray Harris. EsquireCasey Ray Harris. Esquire9 ngày trước
    • This was my redemption or from that far back. The third grade I've had aspirations for a championship for Pacers basketball. The fans deserved it though

      Casey Ray Harris. EsquireCasey Ray Harris. Esquire9 ngày trước
    • This was my, our second chance for that. You know Reggie Jalen and all them Pacers we're at home bucking around thinking they're going to win a championship

      Casey Ray Harris. EsquireCasey Ray Harris. Esquire9 ngày trước
  • Supposed the Pacers Passed the Heat in 2013 and 2014 they will have a tough battle with the Spurs...

    Reyes Dave AbrahReyes Dave Abrah10 ngày trước
  • oof. "reassemble" is never a verb you wanna hear in the context of a human leg.

    Splak _Splak _11 ngày trước
  • Bro I just figured out why the Celtics suck ass this year. It’s bc the beginning of the year Jaylen Brown did a photo shoot for GQ that’s it that’s the curse right there smh we must burn all the photos we’re barely .500 pls Danny ainge 😂

    BDChupacabraBDChupacabra11 ngày trước
  • For A diehard Pacer fan who has followed this team closely for 30 years, you did A very good job breaking this down. Larry Bird made terrible decisions. How You fire Frank Vogel who pleaded to remain on the job is way beyond Me. The fact he got this team to back to back eastern conference finals with the only free agent signing being David West was an amazing accomplishment. That 7 game first rd playoff loss to Toronto was very competitive. They panicked. No way Vogel should have been fired. At the time i thought the Granger trade was good because when Granger finally came off the disabled list that year, it seemed to affect chemistry. You almost got the feeling that there was some jealousy on Grangers end but you made good points. That was a terrible trade in retrospect even though i have to admit at the time i was all for it and all in. To Birds defense Granger never was near the player ever again and quickly faded away and retired. But yeah you never know what he could have sparked coming off the bench in that Heat series and there really wasnt any need to panic even though the team finally did start to slow down after that torrid start even though in retrospect that was to be expected in a long 82 game season. You never know what would have happed if that trade was never made.

    Louis CypherLouis Cypher13 ngày trước
  • Danny Granger meant a lot to this team..

    Michael BennMichael Benn13 ngày trước
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    Raina RhysRaina Rhys14 ngày trước
  • I forgot Goerge Hill was ever a young nba player💀 same goes for David West

    Nameless DudeNameless Dude15 ngày trước
  • 10:28 “And even Hill looked different.” *George Hill with is blonde hair* 😂😂😂

    Rob GRob G15 ngày trước
  • Idk current pacers are looking pretty good tho I think Bird definitely brought them down but overall they still rebuilt strong and fast

    Miles PagetMiles Paget16 ngày trước
  • Championship contender? They took Miami to 7 one year and made the ECF b2b seasons, but that was entirely due to being in the East. Put them in the West I don't even know if they make it past the first round. Anyone who followed the NBA at the time knows those Indy teams were NOT championship contenders

    forman208forman20822 ngày trước
  • Hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling there will be a Celtics Collapse video in like 2026 where Gordon Hayward is grayed out first, then a lot of time is spent talking about this year, followed by Smart being traded and it tanking their chemistry worse than it already is now, pissing off Jaylen Brown, Kemba leaves, Stevens takes another head coaching job after differences with Ainge, Brown is traded in a lateral move for a player that doesn't mesh with Tatum, that player departs next, and Tatum just ends up walking for nothing.

    Tony EllisTony Ellis22 ngày trước
  • Once heard that, in an interview, Vogel called the Knicks ‘soft.’ Call me a salty Knick fan, but if that’s true, then call this Vogel’s comeuppance.

    Matthew KimMatthew Kim23 ngày trước
  • lol

    John Vince BautistaJohn Vince Bautista23 ngày trước
  • I remember that team very well I think they where like a Spurs type unit with a little more spark but the problem was they did everything good nothing great I feel they were super balanced they did everything good but when good stops working they didn’t have anything else.

    1Hunna TV1Hunna TV28 ngày trước
  • Bird kind sucks

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  • How the Music City Miracle and the Scott Norwood miss overshadowed the collapse of the Bills

    Darth PlutoDarth PlutoTháng trước
  • Why do I feel the Clippers 19-21 are the next team to be on here

    Mark Darwin LabarentosMark Darwin LabarentosTháng trước
  • I've always always ALWAYS said... if "competition" f*ks with a player on "your team".. you want that player gone as fast as possible.. idc who the player is.. RH and LS are perfect examples of that. A professional athlete should never get rattled by competition. It's why Indy is going to regret signing Wentz... he crumbled immediately when Hurts was drafted..

    Gaming With This GuyGaming With This GuyTháng trước
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    Dan LiuDan LiuTháng trước
  • How failure to win a World Series sent the Braves toward a downward trend

    Darth PlutoDarth PlutoTháng trước
  • I love Larry Bird but his personality doesn’t work as an Executive

    Christopher GlendenningChristopher GlendenningTháng trước
  • Paul George is a giant stooge

    Gavin HaynesleyGavin HaynesleyTháng trước
  • The disrespect to Pero Antic though, somehow

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  • 4:36 Yeah these players were just being soft

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  • The Granger trade killed the chemistry of this team

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    John SmithJohn SmithTháng trước
  • I don't watch basketball much, but Bird here comes off as a perfect example of management who looks down on their players and staff, and is completely out of touch with the locker room.

    Kris BKris BTháng trước
  • Larry Bird was president of basketball operations, but there was another individual at the general manager position as well. Bird took a fairly lengthy leave of absence during the twilight of the "blue collar gold swagger" days. I never knew how much of the shenanigans were Bird's fault (he drafted both some really great and not so great players) or Kevin Pritchard's. Either way, the front office has been a fan's nightmare for years now.

    Prohibition JonesProhibition JonesTháng trước
  • Let’s not forget PG turning Hibbert into a brick by banging Hib’s girl.

    CarefreebluesCarefreebluesTháng trước
  • Indiana to me has been very consistent making the playoffs the last 30 years, just playing in the wrong eras and the big brawl is what made them title-less.

    Daniel M.Daniel M.Tháng trước
  • I love my team but we never winning a chip

    N A SN A S2 tháng trước
  • Is there any truth that Blake Griffin was almost a Pacer until they backed out at the last minute which lead to Paul George to asking for a trade?

    Eric MadisonEric Madison2 tháng trước
  • bird the reason 😭

    Francisco EncinasFrancisco Encinas2 tháng trước
  • good video, but i will not stand for any pero antic slander

    Kevlim256Kevlim2562 tháng trước
  • The Pacers were never a serious championship contender. They would’ve gotten stomped on if they somehow made it to the finals.

    Wilson HatterWilson Hatter2 tháng trước
  • Danny Granger was one of my favorite players; its a shame he kept getting hurt. he was a Stud. Monta Ellis was never a winner but he was a dog, also one of my favorite players

    Matthew EsoMatthew Eso2 tháng trước
  • Even Doe It’s Gone Hurt Like Hell They Need To Do Bulls Collapse💯 Before & After Rose Tore His ACL

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  • why has no one commented on myles turner's shirt at 10:08 💀

    ayylmao18ayylmao182 tháng trước
  • Its about damn near repaired now my guy, one more piece and the Pacers are championship winners

    ColonelSkinfluteColonelSkinflute2 tháng trước
  • That team went to 7 games in 2014 with my 8 seed hawks I knew they wasn’t gone beat the heat but boy was they fun to watch

    Ynrn KingYnrn King2 tháng trước
  • This is bias cuz I’m a Heat fan, but the Heat had their number🤷🏽‍♂️

    Kyle JenkinsKyle Jenkins2 tháng trước
    • when they were at their peak

      Kyle JenkinsKyle Jenkins2 tháng trước
  • As a die hard Pacers fan this hurts my soul.

    Kam CripeKam Cripe2 tháng trước
  • 10:05 2105?

    HaykHayk2 tháng trước
  • But now the pacers are nice

    Lil ChubzLil Chubz2 tháng trước
  • Ram's Jared Goff era Collapse Next Episode Pz

    Garrett AlcarezGarrett Alcarez2 tháng trước
  • So bird kept messing up

    AozotraAozotra2 tháng trước
  • Chemistry is almost as important as star talent.

    Evan PavonEvan Pavon2 tháng trước
  • I mean pg wasn’t In his prime yet going against 3 superstars on the heat

    LilD**kBigHeartLilD**kBigHeart2 tháng trước
  • Hibbert fell of after a rule change about less contact while attempting to block a player. He always made blocks at the limit and these where later fouls. That's the excuse for his defense falling of, which was a big part of his game. There is still no excuse for him not rebounding or scoring.

    Cedric AsdfghjklCedric Asdfghjkl2 tháng trước
  • WE NEED A COLLAPSE ON THE DETROIT TIGERS!!!!!Pleeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzeeeeee!!!!!!!!!

    Justin MixJustin Mix2 tháng trước
  • Larry Bird was such a bad GM/president

    faiz Alifaiz Ali2 tháng trước
  • P A I N 😔

    Brian HinesBrian Hines2 tháng trước
  • Collapse idea: New England Patriots

    Un-Professional DuckUn-Professional Duck2 tháng trước
  • Blue Collar Gold Swagger!

    Chewey IdolChewey Idol2 tháng trước
  • bird and jordan maybe greatest of all time but they are two dumb executives.

    John AlfredJohn Alfred2 tháng trước
  • 8:38-Thank you! That is the grosses thing ive seen. Next to Sid in WCW and that dude at UK!

    HereIsWisdom 1318HereIsWisdom 13182 tháng trước
  • Pacers were so close; they really should have kept that team together, and tried to add 1 GOOD piece! I know this seems like Monday Morning QBing, but they were scary close!

    HereIsWisdom 1318HereIsWisdom 13182 tháng trước
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  • I wish this guy would make more videos about past Pacers teams! Very good video!

    Stranger DangerStranger Danger2 tháng trước
  • Collapse of SF Giants

    NewBro64NewBro642 tháng trước
  • So basically Hibbert's drastic decline and Lance's immaturity and insecurities coupled with Bird's old-school way of thinking in which players didn't dictate the direction of the team were their doom. They did good in getting Domantas and Oladipo on the PG deal, but now the LeVert signing seems like a bad move as well.

    Kinshasa PR.Kinshasa PR.2 tháng trước
  • Should there be a collapse for the 2016 cleveland cavaliers? Genuinely interested to see how the video will look like

    Diego LofrancoDiego Lofranco2 tháng trước
  • I miss this team low key! it was a dope team! use to love pg24 he was so good, now not so much lol

    Saquon#26Saquon#262 tháng trước
  • why is paul george always involved in chemistry issues...like on the pacers he wasn't the cause of anything but we're seeing the same chemistry issues on the clippers now lol

    ʕ•ᴥ•ʔʕ•ᴥ•ʔ2 tháng trước
  • trading away granger really killed their chemistry

    ʕ•ᴥ•ʔʕ•ᴥ•ʔ2 tháng trước
  • Injured or not, the Pacers weren’t getting past Miami’s Big 3.

    ElToro_Papi _ElToro_Papi _3 tháng trước
  • on All The Smoke , PG said he was in talks with Anthony Davis and said that AD wanted to play in Indy, imagine thst

    FizzyBubbles74FizzyBubbles743 tháng trước
  • fun fact: vogel means bird in german

    Tomáš BačíkTomáš Bačík3 tháng trước
  • Kids these days dont know how good pg was and also how he was a fan favorite because of how he cameback after breaking his leg. Its a damn shame

    General GrievousGeneral Grievous3 tháng trước
  • So, a tomato ruined it? I see

    J.J JamesonJ.J Jameson3 tháng trước
  • I remember this all happening was shocking to see

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  • 😔

    DripTeam EntDripTeam Ent3 tháng trước
  • PEEEERO ANTICCCCC

    DaveDave3 tháng trước
  • I sure do miss these pacers, the closest we ever got to winning a chip!

    Isaiah SullivanIsaiah Sullivan3 tháng trước
  • Who's here after the oladipo trade lololol

    The FusionThe Fusion3 tháng trước
  • Do the eagles

    Colin LucasColin Lucas3 tháng trước
  • Why the heck am I watching this video? Every second rips my heart out...

    Matt DavisMatt Davis3 tháng trước
  • Can't wait for the Rockets Collapse video!

    Sangeethan MohanachandranSangeethan Mohanachandran3 tháng trước
  • They ruined it with one tiny cup.

    JoeCnNdJoeCnNd3 tháng trước
  • They really made a 15 minute video lmaoo. Let me summarize it for y'all. Hibbert was a walking trash can during the 2014 playoffs and PG got injured. PG came back only to find out that the he and team ain't the same so he asked for a trade. 😂😭

    ACAC3 tháng trước
  • @sbnation u guys have to do the collapse of the broncos post manning. First team to ever miss the playoffs for 5 years after winning the super bowl

    Dirk DyksonDirk Dykson3 tháng trước
  • Basketball Analytics really started around the 2013-2014 season, as they put certain cameras in the stadium to track players, their movements, shots, etc. Having a lineup where your Small Forward (Lance Stephenson), Power Forward (David West) and Center (Roy Hibbert) can't shoot, that is what killed them. I understand the chemistry argument, but once teams started stretching the floor, and then forcing the pacers to shoot long 2s, that's what killed them. IMO

    Justin HarnickJustin Harnick3 tháng trước
  • Atlanta falcons would be a great Collapse video, even tho imma fan of them

    big baller brockbig baller brock3 tháng trước
    • also would not be a bad idea to do player's career collapses like Johnny Footbal (Manziel)

      big baller brockbig baller brock3 tháng trước
  • They weren’t wrong to move on from Roy Hibbert when they did. The modern nba game had passed him by

    Night HawkNight Hawk3 tháng trước
  • Should do one about sebation telfar

    Derrick NicholsDerrick Nichols3 tháng trước
  • You gotta respect PERO

    Eu Vim de SantosEu Vim de Santos3 tháng trước
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